Fact-Check ReportReleased August 19, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2542 - Steve Hilton

Host: Joe Rogan&Guest: Steve Hilton
Checked claim by claimSources cited
The Jamie Meter

How many times someone at the table should have said “pull that up.”

How it's scored
3 of 5
Look into it

19 claims didn't hold up. False, distorted, or one-sided. Unverified claims don't count against it.

Enough got stretched that you'll want the sources open.

Claim by claim(21 claims flagged)

Checked against live sources
What he said

Los Angeles lost 70% of its restaurants during the COVID-19 pandemic.

What's actually true

The damage was severe and nowhere near that. Close to a third of California's restaurants shut permanently as the pandemic hit, which matched what the state restaurant association had warned. Losing 70% of Los Angeles restaurants would have been more than double the statewide rate and nothing supports it.

What he said

Los Angeles County represents 23% of the total vote in California.

What's actually true

If anything he is underselling it. The Secretary of State's registration reports put Los Angeles County at roughly a quarter to nearly 30% of all registered voters in California, well above 23%. The county's share of ballots actually counted moves around with turnout, which is where a lower number can come from.

What he said

Kamala Harris's presidential campaign spent 1.4 billion dollars.

It's entirely possible

The election in question was 2024, not 2020. They are talking about Kamala Harris hinting at another run, and the line "the last one was pretty successful for only spending $1.4 billion" is sarcasm about the campaign she lost, followed by "she lost every single swing state." The year in the claim was added when it was written down.

Pull that up, Jamie(50:03)No source captured on this pass
What he said

California Governor Gavin Newsom vetoed efforts to audit state homelessness spending.

What's actually true

Close, but not an audit. The State Auditor's review went ahead. What Newsom vetoed was follow-up legislation requiring agencies to report each year on how state homelessness programs performed, which passed the legislature without a single no vote. He said similar reporting was already in the works.

What he said

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass vetoed a requested audit of homelessness spending in Los Angeles.

What's actually true

There was nothing for her to veto. The review of LA's homelessness spending was ordered by a federal judge in the LA Alliance case, not requested and blocked at City Hall, and Bass was called into court over its findings rather than being in a position to stop it.

What he said

The LAPD projected they would have half the required number of police officers by the 2026 Olympics.

What's actually true

Two things are off, the year and the size of the gap. The Games are 2028, not 2026. LAPD has around 8,600 sworn officers and projects roughly 8,400 by then, against a figure closer to 10,000 the department says it needs. Where half is closer to right is Olympic coverage specifically: the chief's memo says LAPD can supply only about a third of peak staffing for the Games and the rest has to come from outside agencies.

What he said

The California state auditor released a report finding that $24 billion intended for homelessness initiatives was missing.

What's actually true

The audit is real but it did not say the money went missing. The State Auditor found California spent about $24 billion over five years and then failed to collect the data needed to show whether any of it worked. That is a tracking failure, not a report of funds disappearing.

What he said

Canada has a socialized medical system.

What's actually true

Publicly funded, privately delivered. Canada's Medicare pays the bills through provincial insurance plans, but the doctors and most hospitals are not government owned and physicians largely run their own practices. Socialised medicine usually means the state employs the providers, which is closer to Britain's NHS than to Canada's system.

What he said

UFO sightings in the United States increased significantly following the implementation of the nuclear weapons program in the 1940s.

What's actually true

The timing lines up, the cause does not follow from it. Sightings took off in June 1947 after pilot Kenneth Arnold reported nine objects near Mount Rainier and a reporter turned his description into the phrase flying saucer. Hundreds of reports followed within weeks. That is two years after Trinity, so the nuclear era is the backdrop, but the trigger historians point to is Arnold's story and the coverage of it.

What he said

The first COVID-19 lockdown in the United States was implemented in Santa Clara County, California.

What's actually true

Santa Clara was one of seven, not the one. On 16 March 2020 the health officers of Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo and Santa Clara counties, plus the City of Berkeley, jointly ordered nearly seven million people to shelter at home. That was the first mandatory stay-at-home order in the country, and Santa Clara was part of it rather than out ahead of it.

What he said

In 2023, the New York Times reported that the Department of Health and Human Services dismantled vetting processes for the placement of unaccompanied migrant children.

What's actually true

The reporting is real and it is worse in some ways than the claim. Hannah Dreier's New York Times series found sponsor vetting rushed under pressure to move children through quickly, follow-up checks done by phone, and HHS unable to reach more than 85,000 children after placement. What it documented was a system buckling, not an agency formally taking its vetting apart. The series won a Pulitzer and led to policy changes.

What he said

Existing natural gas-fired power stations in California could provide more than all of the state's electricity needs if run at full capacity.

What's actually true

The capacity is not there. California's gas fleet is around 38,600 MW installed, while the state's record peak demand has run past 52,000 MW. Gas is still the single largest slice of the mix at about 34% of generation in 2024, but every plant running flat out would not cover a hot afternoon on its own.

What he said

The California state legislature passed 1,118 bills during its last legislative session.

What's actually true

California's legislature really does pass an unusually high number of bills each year, but 1,118 doesn't match either of the two most recent complete sessions. The legislature sent about 1,200 bills to Governor Newsom in 2024 and roughly 917 in 2025. The general point that California passes a huge volume of bills is fair, but this specific figure isn't the documented total for either year.

What he said

The current budget estimate for the California High-Speed Rail project is $230 billion.

What's actually true

There is a $231 billion number in circulation, but it is the high end of a scenario, not the project estimate. The Authority's 2026 draft business plan puts delivering Phase 1 between San Francisco and Los Angeles at about $126 billion.

What he said

The Los Angeles Convention Center renovation is estimated to cost $5 billion.

What's actually true

The LA City Council approved the Convention Center expansion at $2.6 billion in September 2025, and crews broke ground that October. The number has climbed hard over the years, from $470 million in 2015 to $1.4 billion in 2023, but $5 billion is roughly double the approved figure.

What he said

The California High-Speed Rail project's initial 2008 budget projection was $30 billion.

What's actually true

The 2008 numbers voters saw were higher than $30 billion. The business plan behind Proposition 1A put the San Francisco to Anaheim phase at $33.6 billion in 2008 dollars, and the full system including the Sacramento and San Diego legs at about $45 billion.

What he said

As of early 2024, the Department of Health and Human Services has not accounted for the location of 330,000 unaccompanied migrant children.

What's actually true

There is a real number close to this, but it belongs to a different agency and means something narrower. A DHS Inspector General report in August 2024 found ICE had not served court dates to more than 291,000 unaccompanied minors, with another 32,000 who missed the dates they were given. That is roughly 320,000, and it describes a court notification failure at DHS rather than HHS losing track of where children physically are.

What he said

The mayor of Arcadia, California, was identified as a Chinese spy.

What's actually true

The case is real, the word spy is not the charge. Eileen Wang, mayor of Arcadia, was federally charged with acting as an illegal agent of the People's Republic of China and agreed to plead guilty in May 2026. Prosecutors say she and a co-defendant ran a site posing as local Chinese-American news while taking direction from PRC officials on what to post. That is unregistered foreign agent work and propaganda, not espionage.

What he said

The state government of California has doubled in size while the population moving to or living in the state has shrunk.

What's actually true

Both halves overshoot. State government grew, but unevenly: managers up 32% between 2019 and 2024 against just 4% for rank and file staff, which is not doubling. On population, California did lose close to 600,000 people from its 2020 peak, then started growing again and added more than 100,000 in 2024.

What he said

California imports approximately 80% of its oil from foreign sources including Iraq and the Amazon rainforest region.

What's actually true

High, but not 80%. The California Energy Commission's 2024 figures put refinery crude at 63.3% foreign, 23.3% in-state and 13.4% from Alaska. The Amazon part is fairer than it sounds: Ecuador is one of California's biggest foreign suppliers and the state is the largest single buyer of crude pumped from the Amazon basin.

What he said

China is classified as a high-risk adversary by NATO, NORAD, and the Five Eyes Alliance.

It's entirely possible

Joe is reading a stranger's Google Doc out loud, and the moment he finishes he says "I have no idea if he's right or not." The words belong to the man who wrote the document, not to the show.

Pull that up, Jamie(1:36:37)No source captured on this pass

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