Fact-Check ReportReleased August 12, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2538 - Joe DeRosa

Host: Joe Rogan&Guest: Joe DeRosa
Checked claim by claimSources cited
The Jamie Meter

How many times someone at the table should have said “pull that up.”

How it's scored
2 of 5
Entirely possible

10 claims didn't hold up. False, distorted, or one-sided. Unverified claims don't count against it.

A few needed a second look. About what three hours of talking gets you.

Claim by claim(19 claims flagged)

Checked against live sources
What he said

Jeffrey's restaurant in Austin was rated the number two steakhouse in the country.

What's actually true

Jeffrey's is genuinely one of the best regarded steakhouses in the country, but the specific number is off. In the 2025 World's Best Steak Restaurants rankings it landed at No. 3 in North America, and on a separate global 101 Best Steakhouses list it came in at No. 52 worldwide, not No. 2 in the country.

What he said

The movie Frankie and Johnny starring Al Pacino is based on a restaurant called Frankie and Johnny's in New Rochelle, New York.

It's entirely possible

The 1991 film is based on the stage play 'Frankie and Johnny in the Clair de Lune' by Terrence McNally. Whether the play or the film was directly inspired by a specific restaurant in New Rochelle remains unconfirmed without a direct statement from the playwright or production documentation.

Pull that up, Jamie(15:08)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Joe Rogan attended UMass Boston through a continuing education program.

It's entirely possible

While it is widely reported that Joe Rogan attended UMass Boston, the specific enrollment status, including whether it was through a continuing education program, lacks a primary documentation source. Verification would require access to official university registrar records.

Pull that up, Jamie(51:54)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Joe Rogan competed in the 1988 U.S. Taekwondo Olympic team nationals in Miami.

It's entirely possible

Joe Rogan has stated he was a Massachusetts full-contact taekwondo champion, but confirming his participation in the specific 1988 U.S. Taekwondo Olympic team nationals in Miami would require official tournament rosters or certified records from the governing body of the time.

Pull that up, Jamie(52:58)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Michael Jackson was pronounced dead at Neverland Ranch, but officials claimed he was already dead upon arrival at the hospital to manage the logistics of transporting his body.

What's actually true

Michael Jackson wasn't at Neverland Ranch when he died. By 2009 he'd been living at a rented house in the Holmby Hills area of Los Angeles, and he was pronounced dead at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center after being rushed there by ambulance, not at any ranch.

What he said

Ron White moved to Austin, Texas in 2018.

It's entirely possible

While Ron White is well-known for his long-standing residency in Texas and his affiliation with the Austin comedy scene, the specific year of his relocation to Austin is not definitively established in public record. Confirming this would require access to personal real estate or residency documentation.

Pull that up, Jamie(1:45:56)No source captured on this pass
What he said

The Alamo Drafthouse was the first movie theater in the United States to serve food and alcohol during movies.

What's actually true

Alamo Drafthouse was a genuine pioneer of the dine-in, alcohol-serving movie theater model and helped popularize it nationally. But even accounts of its own history describe it as 'one of the first' rather than the literal first, since a small number of theaters nationwide were already serving alcohol when Alamo opened in 1997.

What he said

The building that houses the Comedy Mothership turns 100 next year.

It's entirely possible

What was actually said is "the building turns 100 next year," as a suggestion that they throw it a birthday party. No year was given. The date in the claim was added when it was written down.

Pull that up, Jamie(1:49:35)No source captured on this pass
What he said

The comedy club building was originally built in 1927.

What's actually true

The building was constructed in 1929, not 1927.

What he said

The 'UFO' feature in the club serves as both a projector for upcoming show information and a housing for a fire extinguisher.

It's entirely possible

The specific design features and functional utility of a 'UFO' installation within a private club are not publicly documented in general knowledge. This would need to be verified through architectural blueprints or on-site observation.

Pull that up, Jamie(1:56:08)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Publicly traded companies are beholden to shareholders and must increase profits every quarter.

What's actually true

There's real pressure here, but it's not a legal rule. Public companies do face heavy pressure from investors and analysts to hit quarterly earnings targets, but there's no actual law requiring them to increase profits every single quarter. The idea that management is legally bound to maximize shareholder profit traces back to a 1919 court case whose profit language legal scholars say isn't even binding, and modern corporate governance thinking has moved away from that strict view.

What he said

Kathleen Kennedy stated that shareholder demands to rush Star Wars sequels negatively impacted the films.

It's entirely possible

While Kathleen Kennedy has discussed the pressures of the production schedule for the Star Wars sequels, there is no widely documented record of her explicitly blaming 'shareholder demands' for specific negative impacts. Verifying this would require locating a specific interview or transcript where she addresses the influence of shareholders on creative output.

Pull that up, Jamie(2:17:47)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Large food conglomerates frequently acquire smaller brands that use healthy ingredients and subsequently alter the recipes to use cheaper ingredients.

What got left out

This describes a real pattern but frames it as the industry norm. It does happen: after General Mills bought Annie's, the mac and cheese recipe was changed in 2024 to swap out milk and butter for corn starch, which fans noticed right away. But that's one documented case, not proof that big food companies frequently do this to every small healthy brand they acquire.

What he said

At one point during the pandemic, Los Angeles lost 70% of its restaurants.

What's actually true

Pandemic losses for LA restaurants were severe, but 70% is higher than what's actually documented. Reporting on the period found roughly a third of California's restaurants permanently closed and Los Angeles County lost about a third of its restaurant jobs, not 70% of its restaurants.

What he said

The host worked for the California Senate during the 76th legislative session in 2000.

It's entirely possible

The claim references a specific individual's personal work history regarding a legislative session in 2000. Without external access to the host's biography or legislative employment records, this cannot be confirmed.

Pull that up, Jamie(2:30:08)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Jelly Roll lost almost 300 pounds.

What's actually true

Jelly Roll's weight loss is real and dramatic, down from 540 pounds at his heaviest. But the most detailed reporting on the journey puts the total at about 275 pounds lost, not quite 'almost 300.'

What he said

Black Rifle Coffee Company eliminated $34 million in veterans' medical debt in 2023.

It's entirely possible

This line is from the Black Rifle Coffee read, not from the conversation. It is the sponsor describing its own giving, sitting between the product pitch and the store list. Advertising claims belong to the advertiser, so the row is withdrawn.

Pull that up, Jamie(55:16)No source captured on this pass
What he said

Joe Rogan's television show 'Hardball' was cancelled after six episodes.

What's actually true

Hardball wasn't cut off after six episodes. It ran its full order of nine episodes from September to November 1994, and all nine actually aired before it wasn't picked up again.

What he said

The Alamo Drafthouse location previously used by the Comedy Mothership closed down before the COVID-19 pandemic.

What's actually true

It didn't close before the pandemic, the pandemic is what closed it. The Alamo Drafthouse Ritz location temporarily shut down in 2020 because of COVID-19, then closed for good in 2021 when the company filed for bankruptcy.

All of this ran on its own. The claims got pulled out of the transcript, then checked against live sources.

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