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Page 33 of 48DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
This overstates the confirmed count. A recent academic paper that tried to map high containment labs worldwide identified at least 69 BSL-4 labs globally, well short of 110, though the field keeps growing fast and a fully complete count is hard to pin down since some countries don't disclose their facilities.
DistortedJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
The Obama administration did pause new federal funding for a narrow set of gain-of-function experiments on flu, MERS, and SARS viruses starting in October 2014, affecting about two dozen grants. But that was a temporary funding pause, not an official stop to all gain-of-function or dual-use research, and a formal review framework replaced it in 2017.
One-sidedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
This is one side of a real and ongoing debate, not a settled fact. Gain of function research really does make pathogens more dangerous or transmissible in order to study them, which has legitimate uses in vaccine and treatment development as well as real biosecurity risks. Calling it simply a euphemism for bioweapons work takes a defensible worry and presents it as the whole story.
UnverifiedSpeaker not confirmed
Not a checkable claim in the usual sense: this is a personal anecdote about a sign the guest says she saw in one county office a month earlier. I found no news report, photo or county notice of such a sign at LA County Building and Safety. LA County did end its general indoor mask mandate in March 2022, and officials kept strongly recommending masks, so the wording is plausible, but that does not show this particular sign existed. A dated photo or an official county statement showing the sign at that office would confirm it, and a statement from the department denying it would disprove it.
FalseAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
The pre 9/11 number was higher than this. A 2008 news report on the growth of high containment labs states that only five BSL-4 labs existed in the US before the September 11 attacks, and a 2009 federal watchdog report shows five such labs were still registered as of 2004, not two.
DistortedJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
Officials did say children faced much lower risk, and a CDC-based study found the fatality rate for children ages 1 to 14 was about 0.01% in 2020. But the same study found children did die from COVID-19, including infants with lab-confirmed infection, so saying the virus 'wasn't dangerous for kids' overstates the evidence. Whether officials knowingly misled the public is an intent question the sources cannot settle. Falsifier: a CDC count showing no children died of COVID-19 in the study period would push this toward the speaker's version.
FalseAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
The George W. Bush Library's account says that on September 11, 2001, Bush went from an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, to Air Force One, then flew to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana and Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska before returning to Washington. That account involves no laundry truck or ground transport. The speaker said the story was secondhand and unverified. Falsifier: a contemporaneous Secret Service or White House record showing Bush was moved by laundry truck that day would overturn this verdict.
FalseJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
There's no legitimate clinical evidence behind numbers like this. Ear acupuncture protocols like this one belong to auriculotherapy, a practice controlled studies have found works no better than placebo, with no peer reviewed research establishing any specific success rate for alpha-gal syndrome.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
There's a real problem here, but not the one this specific number describes. A recent academic effort to map biosafety labs worldwide found genuine gaps in oversight, especially in lower income countries, but it doesn't turn up a figure showing 90% of BSL-3 labs specifically lack safety guidelines. The claim borrows a real concern and turns it into a precise statistic that doesn't actually show up in the research.
DistortedSpeaker not confirmed
I could not find any CDC statement that the fatality rate is 1%. The CDC's published best estimate in its pandemic planning scenarios was an infection fatality rate of 0.65%, and earlier in 2020 it was lower still. A figure near 1% only roughly matches crude deaths divided by confirmed cases, which is a different measure. The check that would flip this is a current CDC page that states a COVID fatality rate of 1%.
DistortedJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
There is a real kernel. Fauci's newly released diary has him privately estimating a fatality rate of "0.2-0.3%" while he told Congress in March 2020 it was "about three percent". But that was an early guess made before much data existed, and the CDC's own best estimate later landed at 0.65% (the Reason article on the CDC's planning scenarios shows this). A public conflict between private and public numbers is not proof of a deliberate plot to scare people, and the sources I found do not establish one. The check that would flip this verdict is internal records showing officials knew the true rate was far lower and chose to hide it.
FalseAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
Giroir wasn't the department's number two official. He served as Assistant Secretary for Health during the pandemic, while Eric Hargan held the actual number two job, Deputy Secretary of HHS, for the entire Trump administration including throughout COVID.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
There's a real, specific example behind this, but it's being stretched into a broader pattern than what's actually shown. Jacobsen says Sam Altman didn't realize ChatGPT could be manipulated into revealing a classified stockpile location until she told him, which is one confirmed instance, not evidence that AI company CEOs are frequently caught off guard like this.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
It's true that federal continuity of government planning is built around keeping officials and institutions running, not protecting the general population. Those plans really do cover what officials do rather than what citizens should do. But there's no public evidence the reasoning behind that gap is an explicit official belief that everyone would die, which is a much bigger claim than the actual planning documents support.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
There's real substance here since the CIA, FBI, and Department of Energy now lean toward a lab-related origin for COVID-19. But the CIA holds that view with only low confidence, and four other intelligence agencies plus the National Intelligence Council still lean toward a natural origin, so calling it almost certain overstates a genuinely divided assessment.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
The public national continuity directive says the President alone decides the COGCON level, based on threats to the Washington region. It lists no automatic trigger, and the detailed levels are classified. The idea that declaring the Insurrection Act sets COGCON 1 comes from Jacobsen's scenario book and her own sources, not from any public rule. The check that would flip this is a published or declassified continuity document that ties COGCON 1 directly to an Insurrection Act declaration.
DistortedAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
She did grab a rifle and fire at the people interviewing her, but the details in this claim are off. Court accounts say it was a US Army warrant officer's M4 carbine, not a Marine's weapon, and she pointed it at a US Army captain in the room, not specifically at FBI agents, even though FBI agents were also present.
DistortedJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
This overstates a real scientific debate. Randomized controlled trials on masking did produce weak, inconclusive results, which is a fair point, but that's different from proving no benefit. Population level and case control studies have shown reduced spread with more mask use, so the honest summary is uncertain trial evidence, not zero benefit.
DistortedJoe Rogan (matched by voice)
Fauci does have a broad pardon, but it doesn't prevent all prosecution the way this claim suggests. It only covers federal conduct through January 2025, leaving him exposed to state level subpoenas and to prosecution over anything he said in his 2026 testimony, which is reportedly the exact reason he pleaded the Fifth instead of answering questions.
FalseAnnie Jacobsen (matched by voice)
Actual studies put PCR false positive rates far below 80%. A large UK testing dataset found a false positive rate of about 1%, and even a higher end analysis of a low prevalence screening population found roughly 22% of positive results turned out false on retesting, still nowhere close to 80%.
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