Joe Rogan Experience #2567 - Mariana van Zeller · Aired Oct 16, 2026
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Mariana says the Kansas bank CEO lost $400 million of the bank's money in a pig-butchering scam.
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DOJ identifies Shan Hanes' 11 transfers of $47.1 million from Heartland Tri-State Bank in May-July 2023. The scam and resulting bank collapse are real, but $400 million overstates the bank funds transferred by roughly 8.5 times. This is Mariana's account, followed by Joe's questions, not a Joe quotation.
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Is it true that Mariana says the Kansas bank CEO lost $400 million of the bank's money in a pig-butchering scam?
No, not as stated. 1 million from Heartland Tri-State Bank in May-July 2023. 5 times. Mariana van Zeller said it (matched by voice) on Joe Rogan Experience #2567 - Mariana van Zeller, aired Oct 16, 2026, at 0:28:11. The supporting source is justice.gov, linked below.
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