Joe Rogan Experience #2579 - Gary Sinise · Aired Nov 10, 2026
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The United States was the first experiment in self-government apart from the ancient Greeks.
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Self-government predates the United States outside ancient Greece. Iceland's parliament describes the Althing established around 930 and the independent commonwealth that existed before submission to Norway in 1262-1264. These institutions had restricted political participation, as did early American institutions; this does not equate them with modern universal democracy. The captions do not reliably identify the speaker of this short exchange, so this check is left unattributed pending voice verification.
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Is it true that the United States was the first experiment in self-government apart from the ancient Greeks?
No, not as stated. Self-government predates the United States outside ancient Greece. Iceland's parliament describes the Althing established around 930 and the independent commonwealth that existed before submission to Norway in 1262-1264. It was said on Joe Rogan Experience #2579 - Gary Sinise, aired Nov 10, 2026, at 1:05:31. We haven't independently confirmed who said it. The supporting source is althingi.is, linked below.
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