Joe Rogan Experience #2560 - David Grusch · Aired Sep 30, 2026
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The speaker held clearances that allowed him to know if UAP sightings were actually classified US black ops programs.
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Grusch did hold top secret clearances. As the National Reconnaissance Office's representative to the Pentagon's UAP task force, his job was to identify classified programs relevant to its work. But he testified to Congress that he was denied access to the very crash-retrieval program he describes. So his own account says he was not read in to everything, which weakens the claim that he would know what every sighting was.
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Is it true that the speaker held clearances that allowed him to know if UAP sightings were actually classified US black ops programs?
Partly. The claim stretches what the evidence shows. Grusch did hold top secret clearances. As the National Reconnaissance Office's representative to the Pentagon's UAP task force, his job was to identify classified programs relevant to its work. David Grusch said it (matched by voice) on Joe Rogan Experience #2560 - David Grusch, aired Sep 30, 2026, at 1:55:04. The supporting source is cbsnews.com, linked below.
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